[Chevelle-list] HELP - Question about body panels

Tue Dec 26 15:39:12 MST 2006

Michael.  I remember you posting a long story about the door issue several
weeks ago.  Hearing it again makes me think that the story begs the question
- Why didn't you return it?
I don't mean to be critical. I'm just wondering if there's more to the
story, like Goodmark refusing to accept the return or something else.   IMO,
a bad product is one thing, but if they were also unwilling to honor a
return that's even worse.

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From: Michael Pell [mailto:mjpell at prostreetcar.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HELP - Question about body panels

Be very leery of any repo parts.  Even Goodmark.  
I bought a new door shell for my '69 from Goodmark, and the door was
1/2"-3/4" too short!!!  and the body man added 1/8" to the front edge, and
shimmed the door out quite a bit to make it all fit.  Very sad.  I now have
about  $1,000 in a single door!!!!!   arrrgh!

I'll be drafting a letter with pics to Goodmark, and will post it on my
website.

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Tom Rightler wrote: 

Do yourself a favor and go to www.goodmarkindustries.com and find a local
dealer.  There are only 2 companies that actually make the fenders, Goodmark
and Golden Leigion.  Dynacorn is nothing more than a wholesaler for Golden
Legion parts.  The Goodmark ones are the better fitting fenders.  A common
mistake that alot of people make is that thinking all these catalog
companies (Year One, OPG, ets.) make the sheetemtal parts, they don't.  They
only have them for retail sale from the wholesalers.

Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor

From: Thomas Ringlein <mailto:TJ.Noelle at sbcglobal.net>  
To: chevelle-list at chevelles.net 
Cc: 'Thomas Ringlein' <mailto:TJ.Noelle at sbcglobal.net>  
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 1:28 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] HELP - Question about body panels

Folks - I am asking for some expertise on this issue - sorry it is long, but
it is a good read.

I noticed that in Ground-Up Restorations, there are 2 different quality
levels of new repop fenders for the 1971-1972 Chevelles.  One, part #
RF-71L, is listed at $260, and is not listed as a "GM Restoration Part."
Another, part # RF-71GML, is listed at $319, and is supposedly "newly
retooled, and offer a more definitive fit, with sharper edges."  It is
listed as the "GM Restoration Part" for our cars.

Now OPG has similar fenders - but only one part # for a left front fender -
PZ00611, listed at $269 (and on sale right now for $220).  I also took the
time to notice that their full quarters for the same car using "original GM
tooling," and listed as the "finest quality" available, and the only ones
licensed by GM - for the low-low price of only $400.  That is about $200
less then everyone else.  As a skeptic, I placed a call and talked to Jason
on the other line.  This is what he said.

Question:  Your competitors have two repop fenders available, one that is
"standard quality," and one that is "newly retooled" and the only "GM
Restoration Part," with better body lines.  Which are your $260 fenders -
the good ones, or the bad ones.  Who manufactures your fenders?

Answer:  They are both the same fenders.  There is only one manufacturer in
the world, and that is Dynacorn.  The panels are licensed by GM for
restoration purposes, stamped overseas, and distributed by Goodmark and Cars
Inc., among others.  The tooling is wildly expensive, and there is only one
set of tooling for these fenders in the world.  If someone else is
advertising two qualities of fenders, they are selling the same fender piece
for two prices.  Beware of these guys.

Question:  Okay, assuming that is true, you are stating that your fenders
are the "GM licensed" fenders, the best available, made with the best
tooling in the industry, and manufactured by Dynacorn and shipped directly
to your warehouse in Huntington Beach, Ca?

Answer:  Yes - that is why we have the best price around for that fender and
are able to offer it to you for great savings.

Question:  I also noticed a similar situation with your "full quarters" for
the same car.  You are supposedly selling the best available GM Restoration
quarters for $200 less then the competition.  What gives?

Answer:  Same issue.  Only one set of tooling, and Dynacorn has it.  These
are the only GM Restoration quarters (the same being offered by Goodmark),
and we offer a substantial savings because they are shipped directly to San
Diego and we truck them up to LA.  That savings goes straight to you.  Oh -
and they are on sale too right now.  Get your order in quick.

Now - Are they feeding me a line?  Do they really have the best stuff for
substantial savings over the competition - or do they think I am a sucker?
Why does Ground-Up have two quality fenders for sale if there really is
"only one available worldwide?"  Who knows the real story on this?

For the record - I would prefer a factory fender, but cannot find one that
would not cost over $500 after it is fixed and on the car.  OPG also has
great prices on the hoods, and all other body parts.  Are they the same
parts others are selling for 25-30% higher?

TJ Ringlein

Clovis, CA

1972 Chevelle in Shambles (heading to body shop in 30 days)

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